In this episode of the ZenRUN Podcast, I chat with Frank about how someone who didn’t enjoy school sport or road running found his place on the trails, and eventually discovered that the harder and more technical the challenge, the more interested he became.
We chat about his rather eventful introduction to ultra running, the races that have tested him physically and mentally, why he’d rather take the hard path than the easy one, and what keeps drawing him towards challenges that initially seem impossible.
Frank also shares why he genuinely enjoys the training and preparation as much as the event itself, how he handles those inevitable moments when things start going badly during a long race, and why running with other people can be one of the simplest ways to get yourself out the door when motivation disappears.
We also talk about his upcoming Harry’s King of the Hill challenge, which has a very personal meaning for Frank as he raises money for MND Victoria in memory of his dad.
And, of course, there’s Pass the Baton.
Frank answers the question left for him by his wife Nida:
How do you pick yourself up in a race or event when things aren’t going well?
Then he leaves a question for my next guest which suggests we’ve finally moved on from toilet stories…
…and entered the world of gruesome runner feet instead. 😂
You’ll have to listen to hear exactly what he asks.
Frank’s MND fundraising page – https://www.mnd.org.au/conquering-the-hill-for-mnd
Frank and Nida’s reno business – https://www.facebook.com/FNRandD
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